Wednesday, July 19, 2017

Battle Spot Doubles 18

Diff kinds of teams:

Weather Teams: sun sand and rain (most commonly rain) Venusaur + Char-Y, Tar + Excadrill, Pelipper/Politoed + Ludicolo/Kingdra

Speed Control Teams: TR and TW (Gothitelle Mawile especially I’ve had issues with)
TR: Cresselia/Gardevoir-Mega/Gothitelle/Mimikyu/Porygon2

TR Powerhouses: Heatran/Mawile-Mega/Rhyperior/Snorlax/Tyranitar/Vikavolt/Etc with min Speed IVs

TW: Charizard-Y/Hydreigon/Salamence-Mega/Suicune/Volcarona/Zapdos

Trapping Teams: Perish song or Gengar Sableye Combo (Countered by Fini/Koko)

Random Goodstuffs: Anything not in any other category or is but you do not center around it much

Support: Clefairy/Persian/Togekiss/TR Mons/TW Mons/Trapping Mons/Stat Boosters/Weather

Redirection: Clefairy/Togekiss

Random Combos (Gengar Sableye, Whimisicott Terrakion, Tar + Exca, etc)


Weather Team Counters:

Sun: Rain/Sand

Sand: Sun/Rain, intimidate,

Rain: Ferrothorn, Misty/Psychic Seed mons like Zapdos, Fini if Ludicolo is eliminated, Snorlax, AV mons like Koko, Changing weather such as Charizard Y or Tyranitar or Vanilluxe?, Cress

Speed Control Counters:



Trapping Team Counters:

Random Combo Counters:

Whim Terra: Follow Me, Win speed tie with my Terrakion, Trick Room + Mental Herb Cress, Scarf mon like Lele

Gengar Sableye: Fini/Koko/Safeguard/MistyTerrain/PranksterTaunt

Tar Exca: Sun/Rain, Intimidate

Venusaur Zard-Y: Rain/Sand

Scrafty Scarf Jellicent - Try not to Trick Room Turn1 until I know what it does also Scrafty walls 1 gleam from Koko

The "New Big6" landorus kang fini zapdos aegislash and a fire mon

Current Metagame Counters:

Knock Off
Band Gyarados
PUP Kang + Speed Control
Zard-Y + Lando-T
TR High Offense
Perish Trap Rain Teams

BSD Teams need:

  1. Fini/Koko (Terrain and Status Counter)
  2. Cresselia/Zapdos/Suicune/Charizard-Y/Gothitelle/P2/Mence? (Speed Control)
  3. Cresselia/Ferrothorn/Lax/A team full of bulky mons with few weaks (TR Counter)
  4. Lando-T/Mawile-Mega/Mence?/Gyarados?/Arcanine? (Intimidate - optional)
  5. Tyranitar/Zard-Y/A team with enough weather resists (Weather Counter)
  6. Kangaskhan-Mega/Zard-Y/Metagross-Mega/Gar-Mega/Lopunny-MegaTar-Mega?/Mence-Mega? (Mega - optional)
  7. Almost any mon, esp. an offensive one (Z move)

Best teams as of 09-02-17 for consistency seem to be:
  1. Landorus-T
  2. EQ Immunity (Not Cress/Mence-Mega/Rotom-W/Vikavolt/Zapdos/Zard-Y)
  3. Tapu Fini
  4. Offensive Speed Control (Gardy-Mega/Mimikyu/P2 - TR, Max Speed TW Mons/Mence-Mega)
  5. TR Mon/A team full of bulky mons with few weaks (TR Counter)
  6. Tyranitar/Zard-Y/A team with enough weather resists (Weather Counter)
  7. Kangaskhan-Mega/Zard-Y/Metagross-Mega/Gar-Mega/Lopunny-MegaTar-Mega?/Mence-Mega? (Mega - optional)
  8. Almost any mon, esp. an offensive one (Z move)

If this format doesn't work try replacing the intimidator and EQ immunity slot 

Tier List

Top Tier:
  1. Aegislash
  2. Charizard-Y
  3. Cresselia - good for icy wind tr or for CM IB Moonlight/Rest Filler
  4. Ferrothorn
  5. Gengar-Mega - Shadow Tag
  6. Gothitelle - Shadow Tag
  7. Heatran
  8. Kangaskhan-Mega
  9. Landorus-T
  10. Ludicolo - Decent at countering or matching rain, FO support, also good on non-rain teams
  11. Mawile-Mega
  12. Metagross-Mega
  13. Mimikyu - Sash/Misty or Psychic Seed, takes z moves well
  14. Nihilego
  15. Persian-Alola
  16. Politoed - good at countering other weathers
  17. Rotom-W- try with waterium z or zoom lens
  18. Salamence-Mega
  19. Snorlax
  20. Suicune
  21. Tapu Fini
  22. Tapu Koko Life Orb
  23. Tapu Lele
  24. Tapu Bulu - Barely high tier, but it's terrain is useful esp vs Landorus-T or Tapus
  25. Tyranitar
  26. Tyranitar-Mega
  27. Volcarona* - Good with Wide Guard Support and Quiver Dance
  28. Zapdos

Medium Tier:

Abomasnow - Counters Rain
Abomasnow-Mega - Counters Rain
Aerodactyl - Has TW and WG Support
Araquanid - Good for Wide Guard support and powerful in Trick Room also Bug Bite
Arcanine - Weak to rain but has a niche Lando doesn't - diff typing and Espeed
Celesteela - Provides WG support and counters a lot of commonly used mons
Clefairy - Good for supporting things like lax for example but does nothing on its own
Escavalier - Fast in TR and has Overcoat for Amoonguss with High Power
Greninja - Debatable, some say Pheromosa is better, but it has more bulk and Protean, can be useful for Mat Block on a Perish Song team
Gyarados - Counters CHALK well especially with Band
Rhyperior - good for Hard TR
Vikavolt - good for Hard TR

Suspect for Top Tier (Testing, uncategorized):

Spotlight - test it out going thru opp's follow me, and lightningrod also vs your own ally with kings shield

Viable (Not top tier or used a lot but may or may not have a niche role):
  1. Amoonguss - It's main niche is Spore, but with Terrains and Sub everywhere it doesn't work
  2. Azumarill - Outclassed by Fini only niche is Belly Drum and/or Aqua Jet and Knock Off
  3. Bisharp - Doesn't ohko anything and too weak defensively too slow also
  4. Blaziken - Countered easily by most mons (dies easy and doesnt ohko much)
  5. Blaziken-Mega - It's niche is higher speed than regular Blaziken
  6. Breloom - Too much misty/electric terrain
  7. Buzzwole - Good potential but too slow and weak to common moves and Intimidate
  8. Camerupt-Mega - Every team has a bulky water counter 
  9. Chandelure - Too fragile for TR and not powerful enough, sand breaks sash
  10. Drifblim - Scrappy Kang beats it, also it is inferior to other Tailwinders usually
  11. Eelektross - Outclassed by Vikavolt - only has 1 stab move and less Sp Atk
  12. Excadrill - Doesn't ohko much mostly just good vs Sand
  13. Gallade-Mega - They wont use Kang when you have Gallade, doesnt ohko much
  14. Garchomp - Outclassed by Landorus-T usually
  15. Gardevoir-Mega - Doesn't ohko almost anything, pixilate nerf 
  16. Gyarados-Mega - Too many weaknesses
  17. Hawlucha - Use with a Terrain mon, similar to Drifblim, killed easily
  18. Hitmontop - Countered by Lele, doesn't super affect much
  19. Hydreigon* - Weak to Fairy which is too common and cant use an offensive item - try again with tw
  20. Infernape - Dies easy and doesn't ohko much and can't fake out often enough
  21. Jellicent - Weak to too many things
  22. Kartana - Gets ohko'd a lot by special moves and doesnt ohko enough
  23. Latias - Weak to Fairy and Dragon is a bad offensive type
  24. Manectric-Mega - Relies on Rain and not very good outside of it - weak moves
  25. Metagross - Why use when there is MegaGross? Maybe Clear Body + No Mega Slot, Misses too much
  26. Milotic - They just dont lead intimidate then kinda useless 
  27. Muk - Weak to Landorus-T which is very common also too slow and too fast for TR
  28. Ninetales-Drought - Outclassed by Zard-Y unless you need the Mega Slot
  29. Pelipper - Too much weather like Tar or only gets a neutral adv. vs other rain teams
  30. Pheromosa - Takes a lot of dmg from Z moves thru protect, doesn't ohko much 
  31. Raikou - Seems to have the niche of DS but 9tales usually outclasses or Manectric-Mega
  32. Rotom-H - Counters Sun
  33. Rotom-Mow - Counters rain
  34. Sceptile-Mega - Doesnt super affect enough and has bad defensive typing
  35. Scizor - Doesnt ohko enough, priority is good but intimidate and Lele are problems
  36. Scrafty - Moonblast Ohkos it
  37. Slowbro-Mega - Generally outclassed by CM Moonlight Cress
  38. Swampert regular - No niche besides Wide Guard and would be good if it always could super affect at least 1/2 mons out and their switch-ins
  39. Sylveon - Same issues Gardy-Mega has
  40. Terrakion - If it doesn't super affect much and outspeed them it isn't worth it
  41. Thundurus - Outclassed by Thundy-T almost always
  42. Thundurus-T - Only has electric moves and hidden power Ice - Koko is usually better unless you really use Volt Absorb
  43. Togekiss - All this mon really does is follow me it is worse than most other tailwinders
  44. Weavile - If they use Tyranitar or Lele it sucks also 4x weak to PUP
  45. Venusaur-Mega -  Maybe Usable vs low-offensive teams
  46. Yanmega - Doesn't super affect much
Unconfirmed Viable:
  1. Kingdra
  2. Raichu - Encore Nerf by Z moves
  3. Swampert-Mega
  4. Whimsicott - Encore got nerfed by z moves and dark mons, better tailwinders
  5. Mudsdale - prob outclassed by landorus
  6. Reuniclus - Niche over Cresselia and Lele is: Magic Guard or its other abilities, Faster in TR, reliable recovery move

Sunday, April 2, 2017

VGC 2017

I am posting here to patent a new idea I thought of on 04-01-17 (not a joke). Drifblim with Electric Seed + Tapu Koko with AV so that it survives a Specs Psychic from Lele.