Tuesday, September 2, 2025

VGC 25 Reg J Tierlist

Possible good restricted combos: 

Groudon or another ally Lunala but Meteor Beam is inaccurate
Groudon Calyrex Shadow but makes FM faster in Sun
Miraidon Groudon but makes FM faster in Sun
Kyogre Calyrex Shadow - Too Wide Guard weak
Miraidon Ogre - Ogre is too Wide Guard weak 
Miraidon Lunala
Miraidon Calyrex Shadow
Terapagos + ?

Possible good combos without 2 restricted:

Groudon Shiftry/Venusaur
Groudon Flutter Mane/Protosynthesis
Groudon Fire Type Attacker
Groudon Water Weak Ally like Ho Oh
Kyogre Tornadus with Rain Dance
Kyogre Zong Gravity
Miraidon Eseed Farig
Miraidon Quark Drive or Electric Attacker
Calyrex Shadow Fighting Mon Ally like Top
Chi Yu FM
Chi Yu Special Restricted
Chien Pao Physical Restricted



S -  Zamazenta?, Miraidon, Groudon, Lunala, Incin, Urshifu Rapid Strike, Tornadus, Whim, Chi Yu, Chien Pao, Flutter Mane, Ogerpon forms, Hands, Magearna*

A -   Zekrom?, Toedscreul?, Shaymin?, Reshiram, Dialga forms, Rayquaza?,  Ho Oh, Koraidon, Zacian, Kyogre, Sinistcha, Calyrex forms, Terapagos, Tar, Rilla, Tsareena,  Amoonguss, Grimm, Volcarona, Smeargle, Farig, Ursaluna, Torkoal, Indeedee F, Roaring Moon, WeezingG, DozoGiri, Clefairy, Ani Ape, Pelipper, Kingambit, Thundurus (Prankster), ZapdosG, Milotic, Empoleon, Solgaleo, Talon, Raging Bolt, Hatterene, Ninetales-A, Brute Bonnet, Gouging Fire, Sandy Shocks, Scream Tail, Gholdengo, Slither Wing, Iron Boulder, Iron Jugulis, Iron Treads, Lando-I and T, Iron Bundle,  Maushold, Starraptor, Glimmora, Archaludon, Arc-H,  Armarouge, Drednaw, Ting-Lu, Gothitelle, Swampert, Gastrodon, Sylveon, Heatran, Okidogi, Ditto, Empoleon, Sableye, Bloodmoon Ursaluna, Snorlax, Rhydon, Urshifu Dark, Bronzong, Wo-Chien, Venusaur, Shiftry, Excadrill, Politoed, Conkelduer with flame orb,  Volcanion*, Hoopa-U*, Hoopa*, Darkrai*, Arceus forms*, Deoxys Speed*, 

B or below -  Mewtwo, Palkia-O, Dusk Mane, Necrozma Dawn Wings' form change, Calyrex original, Cosmog, Cosmoem, Meowscarada, Lycanroc, Iron Leaves, Iron Crown, Iron Moth, Iron Thorns, Iron Valiant, Spectrier, Palkia, Cinderace, Inteleon, Lugia, Giratina (both forms with O being worse), Latios and Latias, Gengar, Raichu forms, Tauros Fire and Water forms, Kleavor, Haxorus, Blastoise, Basculegion, Hitmontop, Breloom, Goodra, Medicham, Houndstone, Sandslash forms, Braviary-H, Oranguru, Stonjourner, Hydrapple, Coalossal, Flamigo, Primarina, Vikavolt, Abomasnow, Appletun, Perrserker, Rhyperior, Pincurchin, Reuniclus, Slowking and Slowbro forms, Glastrier, Sneasler, Eternatus, Regieleki, Barraskewda, Gallade, Arcanine, Gyarados, Dragonite, Mimikyu, Zoroark both forms, Great Tusk, Dragapult, Kilowattrel, Baxcalibur, Jumpluff, Lilligant, Sunflora, Sawbuck, Tropius, Thundurus (Defiant), Thundurus-T, Ninetales-Original, Kingdra, Enamorus, Malamar, Scizor, Palafin, Kyurem all forms, Regi all forms, Wyrdeer, Suicune, Entei, Metagross, Terrakion, Virizion, Indeedee-M, Necrozma, Walking Wake, Garganacl, Croak, Braviary, Mew*

Some reasoning behind all this: Some mons are outclassed generally by others, like Mewtwo vs Deoxys Speed. A restricted Pokemon takes up that limited slot so a nonrestricted that does about the same job is probably better. Some mons rey on something, like TR, to thrive like Ursaluna. Others simply are not great at anything but good overall like Volc. Unique abilities or moves or typing might set some mons apart, especially with decent stats. Generally slower Dragon mons than Miraidon and Koraidon aren't great since they lose the fight. Reg I is the same as J except no mythicals are allowed. Asterisk Pokemon won't be allowed in VGC 26. Kalos dex will be applied later in the VGC 26 season with the new version Z-A when the rules change (in 2026 and the game comes out on Oct 16th, 2025).  

VGC 25 Reg J Tierlist

Possible good restricted combos:  Groudon or another ally Lunala but Meteor Beam is inaccurate Groudon Calyrex Shadow but makes FM faster in...